d'r-studio got ripped again!

[rAyVoLvEz]

This isn't getting funny. In fact, I'm really really irritated and pissed!

http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:ruDnQvF6j9cJ:shabeer.50webs.com/profile.html+rayvolvez.com+%7C+d%27r-studio&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=40&gl=sg

http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:Ds_e0kqoLVEJ:shabeer.50webs.com/+rayvolvez.com+%7C+d%27r-studio&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=42&gl=sg

Although the site has been changed already, the intent was clear there.

And the ripper was "smart" enough to keep all my meta tags, my image links, my navigation codes and he only changed my css codes to main000.css (originally main.css)

And I have written a formal email to this so-called designer, requesting for a formal apology.

I hate this, really I do.

How did I find out? The power of Google.


The ripper site now : http://shabeer.50webs.com

[Edited on 2/17/2007 by rAyVoLvEz]

[w@rtistic]

hmm what a suck up! lol he didnt even changed the image links! that's why i hate rippers, copycats, concept stealers, etc. cant people be creative at their own anymore?

[jusu]

Thats the most clear ripping of your site, it even says that image links are pointing to your site..woah and he/she calls him/herself as designer:mad:

[rAyVoLvEz]

It just sucks.. he didn't even bother to change my meta tags and any part of my codes.. I'm really tired of all these crappers.

Even his current site is a design rip of my colour scheme and layout too..

And Tiono(w@r) told me to take it as a compliment, oh god.. How unflattering...

[Edited on 2/17/2007 by rAyVoLvEz]

[rAyVoLvEz]

OMG..

I just realised that his current site is ripped from http://slicemydesign.com/

What the hell.. He should dig a hole and bury himself away

[rAyVoLvEz]

Email record with 50Webs.com -- My blood is boiling. Apparently when something is not fully identical, that is not ripping. How nice.

Compare the style sheets :
http://shabeer.50webs.com/styles/main0000.css
and mine http://www.rayvolvez.com/css/main.css



Hi 50Webs,

If the div namings and the documentation are exactly the same, do you call it coincidence? Is it not abuse?
I see no point in continuing this discusssion.

Thanks for your kind attention.

Regards,
Elaine rayvolvez
Design & Art Director
d'r-studio
http://www.rayvolvez.com
xoco@rayvolvez.com



50Webs Support wrote:
> Hello Elaine { rayvolvez },
>
> Excuse me but the files are totally different :
>
> diff main.css main0000.css
> 5d4
> < background: url(../images/background.jpg) top left #FFFFFF repeat-x;
> 16c15,17
> < .style1 {color: #666666}
> ---
> > .style1 {color: #B6B6B6;
> > font-weight:bold;
> > }
> 37,38c38,39
> < top: 400px;
> < left: 57px;
> ---
> > top: 146px;
> > left: 10px;
> 80c81
> < left: -77px;
> ---
> > left: 0;
> 84c85
> < text-align:right;
> ---
> > text-align:left;
> 123,124c124,125
> < left: 0px;
> < top: 323px;
> ---
> > left: -46px;
> > top: 53px;
> 148c149
> < width: 301px;
> ---
> > width: 375px;
> 151a153,214
> > a {
> > font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
> > font-size: 10px;
> > color: #999999;
> > }
> > a:link {
> > text-decoration: none;
> > }
> > a:visited {
> > text-decoration: none;
> > color: #999999;
> > }
> > a:hover {
> > text-decoration: none;
> > color: #666666;
> > }
> > a:active {
> > text-decoration: none;
> > color: #999999;
> > }
> >
> > .style10 {
> > font-size: 14px;
> > font-weight: bold;
> > }
> > .style12 {
> > color: #339900;
> > font-weight: bold;
> > font-size: 14px;
> > }
> > .style13 {color: #999999}
> > .style14 {font-size: 14}
> > .style15 {font-size: 12px}
> > .style16 {font-size: 12}
> > .style18 {
> > color: #669900;
> > font-weight: bold;
> > }
> > .style19 {color: #669900}
> >
> > div.copyrighttext{
> > position: absolute;
> > left: -49px;
> > top: 568px;
> > z-index:2;
> > font-size:9px;
> > text-align:right;
> > width: 353px;
> > }
> >
> > div.contentarea{
> > position:absolute;
> > left: 187px;
> > top: 136px;
> > z-index:2;
> > width: 300px;
> > text-align:justify;
> > height: 138px;
> > line-height:19px;
> > }
> > .style22 {color: #339900}
> > .style23 {color: #333333;}
>
> Sorry I will not accept your report as abuse.
>
> Regards
> 50Webs
>
>
>> Hi 50Webs,
>>
>> CSS Script Infringement
>> http://shabeer.50webs.com/styles/main0000.css
>> http://www.rayvolvez.com/css/main.css
>>
>> You can clearly tell that the css file was documented the same way and in fact was documented by me.
>>
>> And attached files are my site codes and that of shabeer.50webs.com
>>
>> I certainly hope that everything is clear enough now.
>>
>> Thank you.
>> Elaine rayvolvez
>> Design & Art Director
>> d'r-studio
>> http://www.rayvolvez.com
>> xoco@rayvolvez.com
>>
>> BCC Westfall Legal
>>
>> 50Webs Support wrote:
>>> Hello Elaine { rayvolvez },
>>>
>>> Copy and paste the exact source form the 50Webs vhost and your site,
>>> that you found broke your copyright.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> 50Webs
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi 50Webs,
>>>>
>>>> Please view the cached version by Google : http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:ruDnQvF6j9cJ:shabeer.50webs.com/profile.html+rayvolvez.com+%7C+d%27r-studio&hl=en&ct =clnk&cd=40&gl=sg
>>>>
>>>> You may view page source to check from the cached version, even my meta ownership details are in there.
>>>>
>>>> Yes I know the current site has been edited and changed, and to the best of my understanding, he ripped another website http://slicemydesign.com , the new rip is way too blatant. I hope that 50webs play your due part in assisting in this rip/infringement case.
>>>>
>>>> I am appalled and shocked to think that 50Webs are not strict with rules and terms control over members. Please prove me wrong on this.
>>>>
>>>> With Sincere regards,
>>>> Elaine rayvolvez
>>>> Design & Art Director
>>>> d'r-studio
>>>> http://www.rayvolvez.com
>>>> xoco@rayvolvez.com
>>>>
>>>> bcc Westfall
>>>>
>>>> 50Webs Support wrote:
>>>>> Hello Elaine { rayvolvez },
>>>>>
>>>>> The both designs are totally different.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where you see the equal content ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> 50Webs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi 50Webs,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the current account : http://shabeer.50webs.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The cached version retrieved from Google will show the rip: http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:ruDnQvF6j9cJ:shabeer.50webs.com/profile.html+rayvolvez.com+%7C+d%27r-studio&hl=en&ct =clnk&cd=40&gl=sg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a web designer, I have reasons to believe that for Google to index the site into its database would mean that my site was ripped and online for a considerable time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is my personal site : http://www.rayvolvez.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With Sincere regards,
>>>>>> Elaine rayvolvez
>>>>>> Design & Art Director
>>>>>> d'r-studio
>>>>>> http://www.rayvolvez.com
>>>>>> xoco@rayvolvez.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BCC Westfall Legal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 50Webs Support wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Elaine { rayvolvez },
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What vhost you report, (paste the URL) and what is your website URL that the content was copied from.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> 50Webs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi 50webs.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is Elaine rayvolvez, Design & Art Director of d'r-studio. I would like to bring your attention to a copyright infringement case by your user. Although the site has been now changed, the intent was clear and blatant, with ripping of my site's meta tags, images, codes, scripts, layout.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's the cached link by google :
>>>>>>>> http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:ruDnQvF6j9cJ:shabeer.50webs.com/profile.html+rayvolvez.com+%7C+d%27r-studio&hl=en&ct =clnk&cd=40&gl=sg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I look forward to hearing your favourable response and I will reserve all rights to legal proceedings against both 50webs.com and the account holder for the copyright infringement. I hope to receive a formal apology letter issued by the account holder, to be publicised on his site or sent to me, via email.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With sincere regards,
>>>>>>>> Elaine rayvolvez
>>>>>>>> Design & Art Director
>>>>>>>> d'r-studio
>>>>>>>> http://www.rayvolvez.com
>>>>>>>> xoco@rayvolvez.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BCC Westfall


Apparently if I want to rip someone, all I have to do is modification and find myself a webhost like 50webs.com

What a big joke this is!

[rAyVoLvEz]

People, please respond after reading. I want and hope to show 50webs.com who condone the ripper's behaviors that the international community will stand up against ripping.

Thanks.

[jusu]

I have to express my dislike against 50webs policy in clear copyright insult. Fortunately there is no need to use their services:mad:

[kiwicolin]

Shabeer is a no talent!

Woudn't be surprised if all his works are ripped

[kiwicolin]

Sent tham an email - you should also put it up on ripper hunting - also mention the 50 something host
But don't let it get to you personally

[w@rtistic]

good news elaine i was right about that he's just a reseller i contacted liquidsnet and did a livechat session send the email to them and they will investigate. And btw did you contacted slicemydesign.com too?

Your session reference number is 3081349
You are chatting with Vince
You hello
Vince hi wasriyah
You hi i have a question about 50web.com
You i believe he/she is a cutomer of you
You customer
You one of his members is ripping html/css code from a friend of mine
You and he wont take actions
Vince I think you have already stated the problem to one of my clients
Vince Can I ask you to send us the required e-mail
Vince with the needed informatiob
Vince *information
Vince so we can investigate
You yes i will make sure she send you the nessacary info
You immo he dont know nothing about coding at all
You cause he's talking about content instead of code
You i just wanna make sure you guys are aware of the issue thats why i wanted to talk directly to you
Vince Well as soon as we receive the needed information we will look at the matter immediately
You ok thx a lot
You you will hear from us soon

[Edited on 2/17/2007 by w@rtistic]

[Edited on 2/17/2007 by w@rtistic]

[w@rtistic]

did some research about liquidnet ltd. i found out that they joined the same thing my host do.

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[w@rtistic]

omfg after some googling i found out that 50web.com is a reseller of liquidnet ltd, and liquidnet ltd is a reseller of resellerpanel.com so i talked what i thought was the helpdesk of liquid ltd turned out it was the helpdesk of all 2 of them ghehehe and he remembered me too! asked why i didnt send the email yet :lol and as i look at the price of the hosting pack i know for sure there's even a bigger fish. lol

[Edited on 2/17/2007 by w@rtistic]

[FX77]

Am I gonna have to play Lawyer for you again Ray? :lol

[rAyVoLvEz]

Thanks Jusu.. I'm glad too that I didn't need to use them..

Thanks Colin.. I wouldnt be surprised to see if his works in the source all has the line "saved from www.somewebsite.com" and seriously, he is a terrible ripper who doesn't wipe his mouth after stealing food..

Now I really wish that ripperhunting is back online, sadly its down until late 2007..

I feel much better after a night, its Chinese New Year and a good school break, I shouldnt let this get to me..

Thanks Tiono(w@rtistic), thanks for all the help :) So what do I have to do next?

FX, I wouldnt mind if you want to play Mr Westfall again :)

[Edited on 2/18/2007 by rAyVoLvEz]

[Coke1984]

One thing I personally do against rippers is placing "morse-pixels" all over my websites. Basically I build the string "copyright by wischnewski.us" in morse-code [one dot = one pixel, one line = 2 pixels] and hide it somewhere in the image, adjusting the color to be just a few levels above the usual color (e.g. if the original image, or part of it, is colored in #000000 I'd choose #000015 for my copyright notice).
That makes it barely visible without zooming inside, and even if my images are altered via hue/saturation adjustments, it still exists without becoming more visible.

Once I found someone who actually ripped one of my personal websites to turn it into a "professionals portfolio" - when I found that out, I created a special html-page with screenshots of the copyright notice on the "desginers" website, and sent this link to all of his customers. Several days later, his layout had changed, and when I visited again after 2 month it was comlpetely gone... Guess his customers didn't like the idea of having paid for [probably] ripped websites themselves.

[Edited on 18.2.2007 by Coke1984]

[w@rtistic]

send the email you've sent to me to resellerpanel.com they run the show of those 3 hosting company's. include also the mail records from your first contact to the last one. also its maybe good to mention that he ripped slicemydesign.com too or maybe verify first at slicemydesign.com if they gave permission or not.

[Edited on 2/18/2007 by w@rtistic]

[rAyVoLvEz]

coke > it was a code and css style rip.. thanks for the morse code suggestion though..

tiono > i have emailed slicemydesign.com but no news as yet.. thanks for all the help.. you're great pal!

[reflect]

Imitation is the sincerest flattery.
-Mohandas Gandhi

I would be angry too, but you are so talented you have to expect this to happen. There are all kinds of creeps out there, but don't let it raise your blood pressure, just take it as a compliment.

[rAyVoLvEz]

reflect, I guess we have to agree to disagree here.. Perhaps imitation is the sincerest flattery but imitation is imitation, not theft, imitation means you try to emulate, theft is you just take whatever people do and claim it your own..

thanks for the compliment.. but i'm not talented.. :)

[reflect]

i agree, this is theft, i didn't mean that what he did is o.k. i just mean that you shouldn't let it get to you

[orech]

Originally posted by rAyVoLvEz


thanks for the compliment.. but i'm not talented.. :)

there i vould have to disagree. ;)

Any way, how can someone, who is actualy presenting his portfolio, "cheet" by using someone elses page or in this case css. I don't get it.

[rAyVoLvEz]

thanks reflect, yeah.. i'm not letting it get to me.. i have more things to care about in this world than to let that ripper ruin my day..

thanks orech, i really do not consider myself talented, because there are many others in here that betters me in skills and etc..

yeah, neither will i ever understand that.. but it seems like he needs to get some learning.. and the guts of him to copyright his site..

and well.. 50webs.com should be persecuted along, since they consider slight difference in codes to make the css a totally different thing.. and that that is not abuse once the filename is changed..

[Gankstah]

You should find which state they are in. And than have a complaint filed for fraud.

[rAyVoLvEz]

the ripper is in india.. and well.. i'm just too tired and buried with my school work and work to bother with such assholes..

as for 50webs.com, i seriously cant be bothered to get anything through their thick skull. moreover the ripper, he will get paid one day.

thanks vin.