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kiwicolin
08-22-2006, 11:17 PM
Why is it that whenever I go to do something on Windows I have to install a driver or re-install a driver. I have been wanting to work, but I have been 2 hours on my machine trying to get it to work, I can't use my other windows machine because it can't read any of my flash drives (barely used it from new)

I can't wait to get my new mac pro! Then if Im forced to use windows hopefully it will just work!


Sorry for the rant, just want to vent :)

rAyVoLvEz
08-22-2006, 11:59 PM
hmmm boss, facing tat kind of problem seems weird? i thought that xp can support most if not all devices/plug-ins easily? pardon me for my lack of knowledge though.. cos i always like xp for its ease of plug n play without installing drivers.. for flash drives, usb drives, windows recognise immediately without me doing any installations easily, similarly for my fren's digital camera's usb..

TraXter
08-23-2006, 12:06 AM
I noticed this when my pc was brand new... but after that, windows downloads drivers silent and no pop-ups is telling me to innstall or re-install drivers since then.

I "love" windows... sorta.. :)

Gankstah
08-23-2006, 12:50 AM
Why cant i get my mac g5 with 4 gigs of ram to work right with photoshop/illustrator when i got to print. Even indesign. Why oh why me. It happends, Im realy fed up after I graduate ill finally have enough time to get it fixed further. I brought it in for extensive tests and reformats etc. It did the job on the surface but now i have problems with my main programs. Its so sad.

I deffintely feel your pain colin with not getting your pc to work with all those damn drivers. My pc's have been my crutch's + my laptop. hopefully i dont have to restort to buying a g5 pro heh.

ps. What specs did you get it with

TechZsue
08-23-2006, 01:00 AM
good of you to share...so did you throw it out the window yet?:P

robf2l
08-23-2006, 01:07 AM
I work on both. I have a g5 at home and at work. I have a Pc at home to check how my websites look on IE 6. I hate windows and only use it when I have to but I have never had a problem with a thumb drive not being recognized....But let me make one thing clear I HATE WINDOWS.......I will never work on a window based machine unless I absolutely have to. As far as I'm concerned Bill can take XP and Vista and stick it up his....

Now I'm ranting

Gankstah
08-23-2006, 01:11 AM
Sue of course multiple times i have thrown it out the window. But it takes the elavator back up to the 21st floor.

kiwicolin
08-23-2006, 01:29 AM
Wanted to trow it out the window. Managed to install my drivers and Im up and running (3 hours) it takes so long to install a firewire device on Win and it keeps wanting to do weird back up things, but its working now.

On the other machine I installed Mac Opener in case that was why it woiuldn't read the thumbdrive, still doesn't work - oh well - If I ever have time I will format it and start again, I know that fixes most things, although I have never had to reformat a mac. I hope that Vista is better.

Gankstah
08-23-2006, 01:37 AM
lucky bastid! your time will come heh. "lets hope not though"

JimG
08-23-2006, 03:32 AM
The only time I ever had a problem with any plug and play device using windows was years ago when I used Windows 98...had no problems with Win 2000, WinXP or WinXP (SP2)...I guess I must be one of the lucky ones.

JimG

rAyVoLvEz
08-23-2006, 06:54 AM
haha.. then i must have been absolutely lucky.. no problems at all since windows xp.. for both my home pc and new laptop..

to be truthful.. i doubt i can live without win xp..

Hermie
08-23-2006, 07:02 AM
The most important thing about windows is cleaning!! I love windows but i only use windows as an OS.
Everything else are programs from others...
Never had problems with plug & play either!
I would suggest to use a program on the windows machine called: HitmanPro.

It's a Dutch program that's also in English (for those who don't read Dutch
:lol). This program helps you to use a lot of programs that have to be on your computer to get rit of mallware, spyware, ect. normally you have to use these programs one by one. HitmanPro takes over the mouseclicking you all have to do. It also takes over the updates of the other programs and does it for you.

Let this program run and i promise you, your computer would be (almost) as new...

kiwicolin
08-23-2006, 09:12 AM
I have no spyware on my computer because it doesn't work on the internet :) (another problem)

rAyVoLvEz
08-23-2006, 09:16 AM
wow.. bossman.. time to replace a new comp.. haha..

hermie > is tat software free?

Hermie
08-23-2006, 09:37 AM
I assume that you have SP2 and all (until today?). Normally firewire (is slower than USB2) is plug and play? Mmmmm. Do you have the right driver for it (i mean the newest driver...), you can check that out but in case you don't know the right driver you could use a little program called Unknown Device Identifyer http://www.zhangduo.com/udi.html (it's also freeware). There has to be a bug somewhere...:notworthy

rAyVoLvEz - Yeah, all the software it's using is freeware.... (seek & Destroy, Ad-adware, spydoctor, ect)

swinnie11
08-23-2006, 12:24 PM
I think Microsoft must have it in for you Colin withall the bad luck you are having, I have dual booted my XP Machine with the Vista Beta OS and I have to say it is Suuuweeeaat, a really nice looking operating system and only a few problems at the moment (with regards to IE 7 being a bit strange every now and then), you should check it out, it's a big download though

Spencer:cheers

rAyVoLvEz
08-23-2006, 03:20 PM
one thing i cannot stand about the new IE 7 is that it doesnt allow me to do direct ftp..

for explorer 6 and below, i can always do ftp.rayvolvez.com via IE, and i get a folder view.. tat is convenient for my clients who doesnt use ftp programs and for me, who prefers such window based folders viewing..

but oh well, mozilla doesnt allow either..

so i guess i most probably hadda stick with IE 6 forever..

kiwicolin
08-23-2006, 05:47 PM
Maybe your right, my laptop is a gateway and it'ss been riddled with problems since I bought it

I also have a powerbook G4 that I use most of the time
don't think I will buy another windows laptop, I will get a macbook pro and hopefully that will be able to run the tiny bit of windows that I need to use

uk2usadaz
08-23-2006, 06:07 PM
I've never had any problems with my P.C.'s only had one problem with an epson print driver, that was because of the faulty epson printer.

Cappy
08-23-2006, 07:02 PM
Typically it is whatever you are used to, is what works for you.

It is like anything else in machinery or technology./ Everyone swears by what they use and when they are moved out of their groove and required to switch over for whatever reason it is foreign ground.

I wouldn't use a firewire on a PC.

I just installed XP SP2 over 2000 and it does seem more demanding in the driver stage. After the upgrade it needs a driver install of each device. It didn't pick up the drivers during the upgrade but that's no big deal as each device works fine once the request by XP has been made and I obliged.

Good Luck Colin, it will be over soon and then back to the MAC

kiwicolin
08-23-2006, 07:50 PM
Unfortunately my sound input device works on firewire only so I have no choice, as for my microsoft wifi card not working on my laptop I have no idea, but to be honest I feel better not using internet on that computer because thats where I record my videos and I don't want to get any viruses or spyware on it, I don't need internet on that machine.

Hermie
08-23-2006, 08:35 PM
That's the best way to be sure...

What kind of sound device is it that works only on firewire? Creative soundcard Audigy (with a front) has a firewire.....
What does the manual say?

kiwicolin
08-23-2006, 08:44 PM
M-Audio Firewire 410

Hermie
08-23-2006, 09:54 PM
Nice piece of audio device.... And it's running still?:D

kiwicolin
08-24-2006, 03:31 AM
I think my PC is just crap, it went to sleep and now I can't get the screen to display, even after a reboot

kiwicolin
08-24-2006, 04:06 AM
Look like it's just about dead, the display is now gone and it won't complete its bootup cycle, top that the battery won't hold any charge. I think I WILL throw it out the window!

First up thoufg, I need to recover my info off the Hard Drive, will I be able to use a laptop hard drive in an enclosure?

Hermie
08-24-2006, 08:03 AM
Did you put the firewire card next to the graphics card? They could hit each other. You don't have another windows computer to test the firewire card? Can the store check it for you.
I think there are two options, the firewire card is broke! or it's not compatible with some componits in your computer, windows is p&p and it should work!

I would love looking into it, but the distance between you and me is to far:D (about 8hrs flying).

kiwicolin
08-24-2006, 08:08 AM
The computer is a laptop and its an external firewire :)
I got the firewire working in the end, but now the display is dead

Hermie
08-24-2006, 08:18 AM
i'm sorry... don't know anymore:cheers

fotodog
08-24-2006, 12:40 PM
I have many similar issues with my work PC - IBM.
Devices and drivers and security patches and workarounds. It's a frickin' nightmare on most days.

I have an HP 8000t at home and it works pretty well, for the most part.
XP - SP2 sucks the big one. It's got so many automated processes and "security" settings built in, that it prevents you from doing what you need to efficiently, Except play games. It handles most devices ok, but I still needed to install drivers for my Nikon capture software. Didn't work straight out of the box.

I have an iMac g5 at home that runs without errors. It's just a titch slow but it plug and plays anything.

Hermie
08-24-2006, 01:56 PM
If the computer on your job is a IBM (a real IBM) than you should put it in the thrashcan (not the windows... to expansive!!). IBM has it's on parts and it doesn't do well with parts from others....
A white computer (that's the term of a computer out of all diferent parts from anybody) is much better and (sometimes) faster than a IBM!

But 25 years ago IBM was the first with a real PC (those days better than an apple!!!).....

:=offtopic:So happy birthday computers all over the world....:=offtopic:

mkeefe
08-24-2006, 02:00 PM
Not sure what your source is, but the non-lenova business notebooks are quick, efficient and inespensive. Personally I prefer a Sony, that has a better display, lighter and more durable... although does have a huge pricetag.

Colin,

Comp USA sells notebook hard drive enclosures, so that might be another option. Also Don't throw your Windows out the Window just yet, you can sometimes pick up a crappy video card that would be "good enough" for a kick around notebook.

Matt

Gankstah
08-24-2006, 02:19 PM
How funny im working on a presentation cover for microsoft corp in nyc right now. Proposal to do extension work of there building on avenue of the americas. Ill post it later when im back.

rAyVoLvEz
08-24-2006, 06:02 PM
acer laptops are worth going for too.. i'm loving my new and cheap laptop which is duo core and super fast..

Hermie
08-24-2006, 06:58 PM
Got myself a dell inspiron 5150 (isn't that a police code in the USA??), with a good battery!:lol https://www.dellbatteryprogram.com/

With a 40Gb harddrive, 1024Mb Memory, GeForce FX Go5200 video card and a pentium 4 -3,06 Ghz hyper threading processor...